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Christopaganism

The wily Chinese, the degenerate form of the Eurasian man, have (despite all of their flaws) managed to achieve some level of theological unity in what should be a hodgepodge of wildly conflicting beliefs. Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism, despite their different origins (with at least one being completely foreign), have all managed to syncretise into a single uniquely Chinese belief system.

The emerging of the Neopagan movement has thrown an ideological spanner into the works of what had, to this point, been a strictly Christian framework of the traditionalist political sphere. The reckoning goes, I imagine, that if something from 1500 years ago is traditional, something from even longer ago would be…more traditional. An indigenous belief system is certainly compelling, as far as being “white” is concerned, but the last two millennia have made this a trickier endeavour than it really ought to be.

There simply isn’t any sufficient way to completely detach Christianity from the last two thousand years of European history. Our art, our literature, our architecture, and even our minds have been altered by this completely dominating spiritual institution. It has also ironically been the only unifying trait of white people since the Fall of Rome, while also being a tool of division. Its properties make it difficult to say if its truly been a boon or a curse, but the fact that the majority of white people still hold some kind of Christian-focused belief means it really cannot be done away with in its entirety.

Even among the Pagans, disputes run rampant. The ethnopaganism we practice, its roots in the Vedas and Eddas, has a habit of ignoring things that aren’t Nordic or things we assign to be Nordic (e.g. Scythians), to the detriment of the most famous examples of Paganism in the forms of the Hellenic and Roman cults. A kind of monotheism has emerged where the gods themselves are all aspects of a nebulous monad (“the One”), a being resembling the God of Gnostic Christianity more than the separate gods worshipped by the Pagans of old. In our spiritual sphere we find ourselves in conflict with the Homoerotic Apollonians, people who I’d probably agree with (on the prime-divinity of the Sun) if they weren’t so gay, as well as the Wicca, who while being populated by women who are incredibly attractive, are completely degenerative in their worldview. Both of these “sects” (if you’ll excuse the term) of Paganism seek to dismantle the traditional roles of men and women, with Wicca trying to flip things on their head with esoteric prime-goddess worship and Apollonians not really considering women people. They are, if you’d like, yin without yang and yang without yin, respectively. I would also be remiss if I didn’t mention the weird Luciferian Nazi death cult, but I won’t waste any more space beyond acknowledging that they exist.

Somehow, we contend with and even tolerate the highly chauvinistic and the utterly deranged and begrudgingly acknowledge that they belong in our sphere, whether we like or not. Traditional Christians, on the other hand, people who believe in the range of 80-90% of the exact same things that we do, are irreconcilable with Paganism? I’ve spent the last few weeks nose deep in both Christian and Pagan literature, as well as reading the beliefs of people that range from Pagans who can’t shake their Christian upbringing to an Anglican minister that claims to talk to a nymph in his garden (and I have no reason to believe he’s lying!) I’ve found that there’s no reason why these faiths have to be in conflict with each other so long as we make allowances on either side. I’ve never done this before as I think it’s a bit unpleasant to lay out everything you believe, but here are the conclusions I have come to:

  • There is only one God
  • Everything has a spirit. This ranges from people, to trees, to electronic devices
  • God reveals himself in a way you find most comforting/culturally conforming
  • There are different layers to reality, and mankind are the masters of the physical world we can see and feel
  • The physical world is NOT evil (this is my departure from Gnosticism)
  • The angels of the Bible and most* of the gods worshipped by the pre-Christian pagans of Europe and the Mediterranean are the same beings
  • Some (but not all!) acts of God in the Old Testament are done by a malevolent being
  • The God of the New Testament is the correct one and is the same entity as Sol Invictus or late Imperial Rome and Sky Father/Tengri
  • Slave-morality probably pisses God off but it’s better than getting in trouble
  • Christ was an avatar of the one God and his teachings are probably a good thing to follow. Jesus was not born of a physical virgin (wouldn’t matter either way), his earthly father was Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, a Roman soldier who was stationed in Judea. Belonging to the Julius gens, he was a Roman patrician. Being born from the womb of a Jew also makes him a Jew.

*some were very clearly demonic (Moloch, for example)

The last point is something I consider very important. The syncretism I’m talking about? The unification between these two worldviews, which I’ve called Apollonian and Dionysian before (not the modern kind of Apollonian) has already happened. Christianity, as I see it, was supposed to be the correct religion. Ill-mannered individuals managed to get ahold of it and turn what was meant to be a distinctly European religion into a Yahweh-worshipping redux of Judaism. By accepting the parts that are good, doing away with the parts that harm the soul, our syncretism between Paganism and Christianity could reinvigorate what was meant to be the European religion in the first place.

I don’t expect many will agree with the points I’ve hastily made here. I only intended this as a place to gather my thoughts. This page will be expanded as I consider more ideas to add.

threads/chris/christopagan.txt · Last modified: 2021/02/28 07:32 by deluge